Here are the most important — and gripping — moments of a phone call between Jody Wilson-Raybould and Michael Wernick that may come to define the SNC-Lavalin scandal
Likely the most explosive component of the detailed brief that former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould provided to the House of Commons justice committee this week—which was released publicly late on Friday afternoon—is a recording and transcript of a Dec. 19, 2018 phone call she had with the Clerk of the Privy Council, Michael Wernick.
“So the PM wants to be able to say that he has tried everything he can within a legitimate toolbox to try to head that off. So he is quite determined, quite firm, but he wants to know why the DPA route which Parliament provided for isn’t being used. And I think he is gonna find a way to get it done one way or another. So, he is in that kinda mood and I wanted you to be aware of that.”
A couple of times, Wernick says in different ways that Trudeau does not believe he is asking Wilson-Raybould to do anything offside, but merely to use the tools legitimately available to her. Wilson-Raybould disagrees: Wilson-Raybould: “Does he understand the gravity of what this potentially could mean? This is not about saving jobs, this is about interfering with one of our fundamental institutions. This is like breaching a constitutional principle of prosecutorial independence.”Wilson-Raybould: “Then no one is explaining that to him, Michael.
Wilson-Raybould: “Well, I feel that I am giving him my best advice and if he does not accept that advice then it is his prerogative to do what he wants. But I am trying to protect the Prime Minister from political interference or perceived political interference or otherwise.”
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